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Peter Neilly is Out to Lunch
Breaking bread with interesting people
 
Out to Lunch!
with Peter Neilly
Today's Out to Lunch guest is Brenda McNeilly, a creative director in a Toronto advertising agency who is an avid collector. She collects vintage lighters, jewellery, gargoyles, 1950s atomic starburst dinnerware, Roseville pottery, yellow ware bowls, 1950s barware, Bakelite, fireworks, stained glass, Depression glass and antique purses. But the reason for this interview is to look at, and learn, about her vintage Halloween collection. Brenda has chosen Donlands Restaurant for our lunch after viewing her valuable and very interesting Halloween collection
 
Peter: Thanks for meeting with me Brenda. You have an amazing collection of Halloween-related pieces. What was it that got you started collecting Halloween
items?
 
Brenda: I'm not really sure what it was. Halloween was kind of like a best-kept secret holiday for me. I always looked at it as the holiday of imagination and creativity. It was like a little treasure that would come and go for me that I would really get into. I remember from the age of four or five being absolutely amazed at the graphics on some of the packages of the decorations and costumes. Every year, my dad would buy me a new costume to wear, but I always went out as a witch. I had, and still have, this witch's cape that I wore when I was five. It has the most incredible graphics.
 
Peter: This may seem like a dumb question but what was the origin of Halloween?
 
Brenda: The Celts celebrated the end of the harvest season with Samhain (pronounced Sowen). Their religious leaders, the Druids, at this time held nighttime fires that included various rituals, such as placing bones of loved ones beside the fires. These "Bonefires" evolved into the present day term "bonfire." The images of Halloween are comprised of influences from seven different countries, Germany, Scotland, Ireland, Wales, Jamaica, Haiti and the United States. Germans arrived in North America after the civil war, bringing with them their belief in witches, gnomes, talking trees and root people. They created the Jack O'Lantern with the mangelwurzel, a turnip that they fed to cows, which they carved and lit with a candle. Although the Germans did not celebrate Halloween, they did produce the best quality Halloween collectibles. The British (Scotland, Ireland, Wales) arrived at the same time and brought with them the imagery of veggie people, fairies, forest people, skeletons, ghosts, bats - and the devil. Tales of Voodoo from Haiti and Jamaica migrated north from New Orleans and the pumpkin replaced the mangelwurzel turnip in North America.
 
Peter: Halloween started as an adult celebration, didn't it?
 
Brenda: It was. In early rural Scotland and England, adult villagers saw each other and celebrated for the last time before the cold weather set in. Much courting and many marriages took place at that time. When the practice of Halloween arrived in North America, it evolved from an agrarian or farming celebration into a broader audience that included rural and urban communities. In 1909, the Dennison paper manufacturing company created the first "Bogie Book" and in 1910 the first North American Halloween cards and books were introduced. The 1920s to 1935 were referred to as the Zenith of German Halloween production. F.W. Woolworth's and Kresge's imported Halloween craft paper items and decorations from Germany. The imagery was highly aggressive and was intended for adults. It was vastly different from the mass-produced imagery that targets children today.
 
Peter: When did kids become involved in Halloween?
 
Brenda: During the 1930s, "trick or treating" was introduced to curb the vandalism that had characterized "the devil's night" and Halloween evolved from an adult to a child centric holiday tradition. More benign imagery was introduced at this time.
 
Peter: What are some of the favorite pieces in your collection?
 
Brenda: There are many favourites. I have these tiny celluloid pieces that were made by the Viscaloyd Company and because they are made of celluloid and were so light and fragile, not many survived. These are very German looking by design but were made in the U.S. A piece like this would sell on eBay for up to $1,000 because of their rarity. One of the most unusual pieces I have is this gypsy witch fortune-telling doll. I have only seen two others. Her hair is real hair, her face is composition and her skirt is made up of multi-coloured folded pages. When you read the pages, each one tells you your daily fortune. Fortune telling was a big part of early Halloween. She is amazing and is extremely old and rare. Several faces designed by American artists were called choirboy faces because they looked like they were singing.
 
Peter: Is there a way or method that a novice collector can use to date vintage Halloween collectibles?
 
Brenda: There are a few things to look at. Generally, the scarier the imagery, the older the piece. Markings or stamped items can be approximately dated. Pre 1933 items were marked "Germany" or "Japan" while after 1933 importing regulations required pieces to be marked "Made in Germany" or "Made in Japan." After World War II, items were signed "Made in U.S. Zone Germany" or "Made in Occupied Japan." After 1949, many pieces were marked "Western Germany."
 
Peter: Brenda thank you for showing me your incredible collection. You have a real passion for Halloween. Now lets head out for one of my passions, LUNCH.
 
Brenda has a web site you can visit for more pictures and Halloween information, www.flickr.com/photos/ghostofhalloweenspast/
 
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