Editor’s Note:
 
This column is a regular feature in the Wayback Times in which my husband takes interesting people out to lunch … and sends me the bill.
 
(It's a tough job, but someone has to do it!)
 
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Memo to the boss: Caught up with Marshall Gummer today, fresh from his appearance on Citytv's Breakfast Television show, and went to the Golden Rooster for our Out to Lunch sit-down. It's a nice Thai restaurant in Colborne. Lunch was excellent - receipt to follow. Marshall is an accredited member of the Canadian Personal, Property Appraisers Group (CPPA), an antique and collectables dealer and is credited with more than 30 television appearances dealing with the subject of "appraising antiques."

 

 

 
Peter: Thanks for meeting with me, Marshall. Sandy and I both watched your interview on Citytv and were quite impressed. You did a great job. It must have been a lot of work to set up and showcase all those pieces.
 
Marshall: My friend and I were up most of the night at the hotel getting everything ready. At 2 a.m., she was still stapling upholstery onto the seat of a chair we were taking. We arrived at Citytv at 6 a.m. to set up. It's interesting the way they operate that show. A lot goes on behind the scenes. The co-host, Dina Pugliese, who interviewed me, was so interested in a painting I was showing they had to come and grab her to get her back in time for her next interview. It all looks very smooth to the viewer, but it's really fast paced.
 
Peter: I'm always interested to find out what gets people started in the antique business. What got you hooked?
 
Marshall: I started collecting when I was eight years old. I was in a stamp club and a coin-collecting club and had hockey cards like most kids, but my parents were responsible for taking me to the next level. My dad was in the Armed Forces and as a result we traveled all over the world. He got posted in France and I think I visited most of the old churches in Europe. We went to Rome and when you've been to places like the Sistine Chapel, or the Louvre in Paris, the history has to rub off on you.
 
Peter: Does being an appraiser and an antique dealer set up a conflict of interests at all?
 
Marshall: Being a dealer helps me keep on top of things in today's market. I go to over 100 auctions a year just to keep up to date. Prices of antiques are changing rapidly and if you are not current with your valuations, you are doing a disservice to your client with your appraisal. And as a dealer, if you are not buying right, you can lose a lot of money fast. Many things that were valuable 10 years ago are not as popular today. Just because it's old doesn't mean it's worth money. Tastes change and prices reflect that. Some of the more valuable pieces that I see today come from the 40s, 50s and 60s. A modern Herman Miller chair can go for much more than a Victorian, or even a Georgian period, chair today. Things change. I try and watch what younger people (the twenty somethings) are buying and collecting. They are the ones setting the trends for the future and they are not buying things like Victorian furniture. There is still a market for those pieces, especially for someone restoring a century home, and, of course, if someone like Martha Stewart or Oprah does a show on Victorian furniture the market will bounce back instantly.
 
Peter: Usually when we bump into each other at antique shows or auctions we end up talking about racing cars or your Porsche, but I wanted to meet with you today to discuss your views on collecting. When I was at your house last summer, I couldn't help but notice you buy and collect pieces different than most antique dealers.
 
Marshall: I try to be different and make an effort to keep ahead of the game. I collect mid-century modern pieces and concentrate on Canadian pottery and Canadian abstract art. I remember years ago Tim Potter referred to me as Mr. Tacky because of what I was buying at one of his auctions. I took it as a compliment. I'm not into what I call name brand, or signed piece buying. I purchase what I like according to my own taste and my own sense of style. I am fascinated by some of the small town local potteries across this country and what they are producing. I have several pieces of Harlander pottery that were produced by Theo and Susan Harlander in Brooklin, Ontario. Theo would throw the pottery and his wife, Susan, would decorate the pieces. I discovered their work a few years ago. I was traveling across Canada doing an antique road show-type appraisal tour and when I returned I noticed this piece of pottery my sister had purchased and put in my booth for sale with a price tag of $25 on it. I liked the look of it, but about a week later I was reading your Wayback Times paper and noticed a picture of a similar plate described as Harlander taken at one of the shows with a price tag of $1,200. I remember driving very fast to get back to my booth and change the price. That got me interested in collecting Harlander pottery. I'm always on the look out for good Canadian pottery and Canadian art glass. There are some incredible pieces out there. Every day is like a treasure hunt. The fun is in the search.
 
Peter: Do you have any advice or hints for novice collectors?
 
Marshall: I really think the extent of a collection should be limited to three or four items. As you obtain a better piece, you sell off the one of lesser value. That way you can manage several different types of collections at the same time and still have room in your house to walk around. Buy what you like, but never sell it unless you know what it is and what it's worth. Do the research. I really like abstract art produced in Canada during the 60s and 70s. I personally will buy a painting just because it has powerful colours, like oranges or reds. Surround yourself with things that make you smile, or laugh, or something that brings back fond memories. I would also suggest people stay away from anything that is specifically marketed as a collectable. Terms like "limited edition" and "collectors edition" are used to imply value and most times there isn't any real value. I consistently see collector plates at auctions that people have paid good money for selling for $5 or less. Rarity has a big influence on value. One of the more valuable Shelly cup and saucers is the dainty black pattern. Because of the colour, it wasn't as popular and didn't sell as well as the dainty blue and, as a result, there are fewer available. Rarity increases the value.
 
Peter: Thanks for meeting with me, Marshall. I enjoyed our Thai lunch. As usual, Sandy gets the bill.
 
Marshall Gummer is a professional appraiser and can be reached through his web site www.theappraiser.ca. He has a booth set up and sells at Twindmills Antiques and Collectibles in Colborne and will be showing at the Colborne Antique show in May.
 
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